{"id":64502,"date":"2026-05-25T08:00:07","date_gmt":"2026-05-24T23:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/norimen.net\/?p=64502"},"modified":"2026-05-21T23:48:38","modified_gmt":"2026-05-21T14:48:38","slug":"seksyon-ng-lidar-ng-iphone-17-scaniverse-cloudcompare","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/norimen.net\/tl\/iphone17-lidar-section-scaniverse-cloudcompare\/","title":{"rendered":"Pagkuha ng mga Cross-Section gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone 17 Pro | Isang Hakbang-hakbang na Gabay sa Mura at Epektibong Paglikha ng Point Cloud ng Site gamit ang Scaniverse at CloudCompare"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Kamusta kayong lahat.<\/p>\n<p>Ito si Enta.<\/p>\n<p>Sa pagkakataong ito, sinubukan kong kunan ng point cloud gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone 17 Pro at iguhit ang cross-section! Kaya sinubukan kong gawin ito nang pinakamura hangga't maaari.<br \/>\nIbabahagi ko ang paraan at ang tapos na resulta.<\/p>\n<p>Kamakailan, madalas kong naririnig ang ilang civil engineer sa site na nagsasabing, 'Gusto kong subukan ang point cloud scanning, pero gusto ko munang gawin ito nang pinakamura hangga't maaari.'<br \/>\nNakararanas kami ng mas maraming sitwasyon kung saan naiisip namin, 'Kailangan namin ng cross-section dito,' maging para suriin ang kasalukuyang kalagayan bago gumawa ng quote o para maghanda ng mga paliwanag na materyales para sa kliyente, kaya nagpasya akong subukan na lang ito lol.<\/p>\n<p>Ngunit hindi iyon ang punto.<\/p>\n<p>Hindi mo kailangan ng espesyal na 3D scanner. Ang kailangan mo lang ay ang iPhone 17 Pro na mayroon ka.<\/p>\n<p>Ang kakailanganin mo (gastos: halos 0 yen)<\/p>\n<p>Ang kailangan mo lang ay isang iPhone 17 Pro. (Maaaring iyon ang pinakamahal na bahagi, lol.)<br \/>\nNgayon, i-scan ko ang site gamit ang isang libreng programa na tinatawag na Scaniverse.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64506\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Scaniverse.jpg\" alt=\"Scaniverse\" width=\"600\" height=\"209\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Ganito itong uri ng app.<br \/>\nSikat na sikat ito sa mundo ng point cloud, hindi ba?<\/p>\n<p>Ang Scaniverse ay isang libreng 3D scanning app para sa iOS na inaalok ng Niantic (hanapin ang 'Scaniverse' sa App Store). Opisyal na sinasabi na pinapayagan ng app ang pag-scan sa totoong sukat sa mga aparatong may LiDAR.<\/p>\n<p>Binubuo ang hardware ng isang iPhone 17 Pro; ang software naman ay binubuo ng Scaniverse (libre) at CloudCompare (libre, lisensyang GPL).<br \/>\nHalos zero ang aktwal na gastos. Kung mayroon ka nang mobile device at PC, maaari mo na itong patakbuhin nang walang karagdagang gastos.<\/p>\n<p>Bagaman nakasaad sa opisyal na espesipikasyon ng Apple na ang iPhone 17 Pro ay 'may LiDAR scanner', hindi ito katumbas ng mga kagamitang pang-survey na mataas ang katumpakan na ginagamit sa inhinyeriyang sibil.<\/p>\n<p>Pakitandaan na ito ay para lamang sa magaspang na pagsusuri.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Gumawa si Direktor Jou ng katulad na bagay noong isang araw, kaya pakitingnan mo ito.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Manlalaro ng video sa YouTube\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/h7SotcOnpMk?si=wlRyTedhba8t0zK6\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ang paksa ng proyektong ito (isang site na pinagsasama ang pagtatayo ng tuyong-bato at pag-block)<\/p>\n<p>At ito ang aming layunin sa pagkakataong ito: isang kombinasyon ng pagtatayo ng pader na tuyong bato at mga bloke.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64505\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/2026-05-21-13.41.06.jpg\" alt=\"Mga hakbang upang maiwasan ang pagbagsak ng mga pader na bato\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Sa aking pananaw, nakikita ko ang magandang pakiramdam ng pagkasira ng nakaraan at muling pagtatayo nito.<\/p>\n<p>Sa mga pader na bato na ganito sa paanan ng burol, bihira na talaga silang magkaroon ng plano, lol.<br \/>\nNagtanong ako sa lokal na konseho ngunit walang plano; ang kliyente rin ay nagbigay ng karaniwang sagot: 'Inasikaso na ito ng nauna sa akin.'<br \/>\nSa ganoong kaso, sa palagay ko ang tanging magagawa ay simulan ang pag-unawa sa kasalukuyang sitwasyon.<\/p>\n<p>Sa post na ito, ipapaliwanag ko ang isang napakasimple, mabilis, at murang paraan para makagawa ng cross-section nito.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pag-import ng point cloud data sa CloudCompare<\/p>\n<p>Ito<br \/>\nCloudCompare<a href=\"https:\/\/www.danielgm.net\/cc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Website<\/a>) Gumagamit ako ng isang piraso ng software na tinatawag na [name] sa aking PC.<\/p>\n<p>Ang CloudCompare ay isang open-source na programa para sa pag-edit ng point cloud. Katugma ito sa Windows, Mac at Linux, at maaaring gamitin para sa komersyal na layunin (ayon sa mga tuntunin ng GPL).<\/p>\n<p>Mangyaring i-save ang LiDAR data mula sa iPhone 17 Pro sa LAS format at itago ito sa iyong PC.<\/p>\n<p>Kung pipiliin mo ang LAS (o .e57) sa mga setting ng pag-export ng Scaniverse, maaaring direktang ma-import ang file sa CloudCompare.<\/p>\n<p>Pakitiyak na nakatakda sa 'metro' ang yunit ng sukat kapag nag-e-export.<\/p>\n<p>Kung nakatakda ito sa mm, ipinapakita ang point cloud sa napakaliit na sukat, at maiisip mo, 'Wala namang lumalabas!' lol<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64503\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/b23776918eac42044f71983610f5857a.jpg\" alt=\"Sinubukan kong kumuha ng cross-section gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone!\" width=\"600\" height=\"402\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I-install ang software, buksan ang software, at buksan ang file.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64504\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/da353cba059000e1c6029cc406195ecd.jpg\" alt=\"Sinubukan kong kumuha ng cross-section gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone!\" width=\"600\" height=\"421\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Magpapakita ito ng isang screen na ganito, kaya kung i-click mo ang 'Apply' na button sa ibabang kanang sulok...!!?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64509\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/c1779a050b66f9e22bd0678b8079e815.jpg\" alt=\"Sinubukan kong kumuha ng cross-section gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone!\" width=\"600\" height=\"399\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Ipinapakita ang mga halagang koordinado na naitala ng Scaniverse.<br \/>\nAyos na ito kung ano ito. (Sa ngayon, kahit papaano.)<br \/>\nKaya, ano ang mangyayari noon!!?<br \/>\nLalabas ang datos ng point cloud.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ano sa palagay mo?<br \/>\nLalabas na ba ito?<\/p>\n<p>Babanggitin ko na lang ang dalawang karaniwang hadlang dito.<\/p>\n<p>\u30fbKung masyadong mahina ang mga punto para makita \u2192 Itakda ang 'Point Size' sa ilalim ng 'Display' sa CloudCompare sa '2' o '3' upang mas madali silang makita<br \/>\n\u30fbKung walang ipinapakita kapag nag-e-export mula sa LAS \u2192 Suriin ang yunit ng sukat sa mga setting ng Scaniverse Export at palitan ito ng metro<\/p>\n<p>Naadik ako rito nang halos isang oras nung una kong sinimulan, lol.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Paghiwa ng mga cross-section sa CrossSection<\/p>\n<p>Mula doon, kapag napili na ang point cloud, piliin ang Tools \u2192 Segmentation \u2192 CrossSection.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64510\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/d72ee8ee02d2b71abbe7235a16d6c805.jpg\" alt=\"Sinubukan kong kumuha ng cross-section gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone!\" width=\"600\" height=\"437\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Makikita mo pagkatapos ang isang screen na ganito.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64511\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0ebc6f97479ba714fada454e414c9593.jpg\" alt=\"Sinubukan kong kumuha ng cross-section gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone!\" width=\"600\" height=\"282\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Dito, i-tap ang lugar na tinutukoy ng berdeng arrow at itakda ang lapad sa 20 sentimetro upang tumugma sa bahagi na nais mong gupitin.<br \/>\nSa mga koordinato, ang pagtatakda ng halagang Y sa 0.2 ay magpapaliit dito.<br \/>\nDepende ito sa kung paano nakuha ang point cloud at sa kalidad nito, ngunit dahil maaaring magbunga ng hindi pantay na resulta ang iPhone LiDAR, pinakamainam marahil ang halagang nasa pagitan ng 0.1 at 0.3.<\/p>\n<p>Medyo nakadepende ito sa pakiramdam, pero sa personal kong pananaw, kapag nagtratrabaho ka sa mga bagay na hindi pantay ang ibabaw\u2014tulad ng mga pader na gawa sa tuyong bato\u2014mas madali panatilihing magkakaugnay ang mga linya kung itatakda mo ang lapad sa humigit-kumulang 0.2 hanggang 0.3.<br \/>\nSa kabaligtaran, kung patag ang ibabaw, gaya ng pader na panustos, maghihiwa ito nang malinis kahit sa 0.1.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64512\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/8d5905b7922e765730b7e017b4552119.jpg\" alt=\"Sinubukan kong kumuha ng cross-section gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone!\" width=\"600\" height=\"360\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Kung iikot mo ang imahe gamit ang singsing sa ilalim ng asul na mga pana (pataas at pababa) para ihiga ito, makikita mo ang cross-section, hindi ba?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64515\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/2a01589f9e304c063c84e90ad62a3ef5.jpg\" alt=\"Hugis-crosong hiwa na putol\" width=\"510\" height=\"500\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Kapag pinindot mo ang \u2460, lalabas ang \u2461.<br \/>\nDahil gusto kong Y-section sa pagkakataong ito, markahan ko ang kahon na 'Y' at i-click ang 'OK'.<br \/>\nMagpapakita ng senyales na tapos na ito, kaya ayos lang din iyon.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64516\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/8ed0af90258567c5e7791ea90f5c8044.jpg\" alt=\"Mga Setting ng Pagputol ng Cross-section\" width=\"600\" height=\"342\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Kung hindi magpunta ayon sa plano, pakisubukan ang pamamaraang inilarawan sa itaas.<\/p>\n<p>Ang mga taong nagsasabing, 'Hindi ko makuha ang cross-section!' ay madalas na napipili ang X-axis sa halip na Y-axis.<br \/>\nDahil naaapektuhan ng oryentasyon ng iPhone 17 Pro kapag hinahawakan mo ito para mag-scan sa site ang axis, pakisubukan ang parehong oryentasyong Y at X sa unang ilang pagtatangka.<br \/>\nMaraming tao ang nahuhumaling dito, lol.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I-convert sa mga polylines at i-export sa DXF.<\/p>\n<p>Kung lumitaw sa puno sa kaliwa ang isang entry na pinangalanang 'filename.las.envelope', nilikha na ang isang polyline.<br \/>\nDito nagtatapos ang kurso ng CrossSection.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64517\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/d63c63cc6205cd650a8abbd90561f425.jpg\" alt=\"Paglikha ng polyline\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Mukhang ganito ito.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-64518\" src=\"https:\/\/norimen.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/e7c1a3a6afeab2601b1830ea93f094f7.jpg\" alt=\"Pag-iimbak ng mga Polylines bilang DXF\" width=\"600\" height=\"344\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Kung i-save mo ito bilang DXF file, makakagawa ka ng cross-section, kaya buksan mo lang ito sa CAD at gawin ang mga kinakailangang pagsasaayos.<\/p>\n<p>Kapag na-export mo na ang file bilang DXF, maaari mo na itong buksan sa CAD software na gusto mo, maging ito man ay AutoCAD o Jw_cad.<br \/>\nGayunpaman, ang LiDAR sa iPhone 17 Pro ay para lamang sa pangunahing layunin ng pagsukat.<br \/>\nDahil hindi sapat ang katumpakan para maisama sa mga working drawings, kung sa huli ay kukuha lang tayo ng dalawa o tatlong sukat ng pag-level sa site at gagamitin ang mga aktwal na sukat na iyon para itama ang point cloud, magiging isang set ng mga drawing na lubos na magagamit para sa mga layuning inhinyeriyang sibil.<\/p>\n<p>Pakiramdam ko ay wala pang pamantayang pamamaraan sa buong industriya para sa 'pag-aayos ng LiDAR point clouds sa absolutong koordinato'.<\/p>\n<p>Ang impresyon ko sa Mayo 2026 ay nag-iiba-iba ang mga gawi sa bawat kumpanya. Batay lang ito sa sarili kong karanasan, ha! lol<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Paghahambing sa mga Nakalaang Makina (Isang Magaspang na Taya ng Panloob na Gastos)<\/p>\n<p>Narito ang isang magaspang na paghahambing.<\/p>\n<p>\u30fbNakalaang 3D laser scanner at operator: Mula 500,000 hanggang 1,000,000 yen bawat lokasyon<br \/>\n\u30fbPhotogrammetry gamit ang drone + SfM software: Mula sa 100,000 yen bawat lokasyon<br \/>\n\u30fbiPhone 17 Pro + Scaniverse + CloudCompare: Halos 0 yen ang aktwal na gastos (basta mayroon ka nang device at PC)<\/p>\n<p>Pagdating sa katumpakan, ang mga dedikadong 3D scanner ay, siyempre, walang katapat. Hindi na iyon kailangang sabihin, lol.<br \/>\nGayunpaman, pagdating sa pagsusuri ng kasalukuyang sitwasyon bago magbigay ng quotation, paghahanda ng mga paliwanag na materyales para sa kliyente, panloob na talakayan, at mga paunang cross-section, higit pa sa sapat ang kakayahan ng LiDAR sa iPhone 17 Pro para sa gawaing ito.<\/p>\n<p>Pakitandaan na ang mga pagtatantya ng gastos sa itaas ay batay sa aktwal na karanasan ng aming kumpanya. Dahil natural itong mag-iiba depende sa laki ng kumpanya, rehiyon, at proyekto, ituring lamang ang mga ito bilang gabay.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ginagamit ko ito para sa mga guhit na kinakailangan sa yugto ng disenyo ng mga pribadong proyekto sa konstruksyon.<\/p>\n<p>Isang paunang pahalang na seksyon, na ibinigay bilang paunang ulat bago simulan ang pormal na surbey.<br \/>\nSa mga sitwasyong tulad ng, 'Kailangan ko ng cross-section para sa meeting bukas, pero wala akong oras o pera para kumuha ng surveyor!' talagang nakakatulong ang iPhone, hindi ba? lol<\/p>\n<p>Kung isa kang inhinyerong sibil na may iPhone 17 Pro sa kamay, sa tingin ko ay sulit itong isaalang-alang, lol.<\/p>\n<p>Magkita tayo mamaya.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kamusta kayong lahat. Ako si Enta. Sa pagkakataong ito, sinubukan kong kumuha ng point cloud gamit ang LiDAR ng iPhone 17 Pro at gumuhit ng cross-section\u2014at nagawa ko ito sa pinakamurang paraan. Ibahagi ko ang metodong ginamit ko at ang mga resulta. Kamakailan, kahit sa mga civil engineer sa site, may nararamdamang, 'Gusto kong subukan ang point cloud scanning, pero\u2026'<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":64522,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[14271,38],"tags":[6097,14370,14371,14372],"class_list":["post-64502","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-construction-industry-3","category-construction-management","tag-lidar","tag-iphone17","tag-scaniverse","tag-cloudcompare"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v28.4 (Yoast SEO 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